EPISODE 330: The 4th Annual(-ish) Year-End Holiday Roundtable Spectacular!

We press the rewind button on a most interesting 2023, and peer ahead into the uncharted waters of 2024 with our fourth-annual(-ish) Holiday Roundtable Spectacular - featuring three of our favorite fellow defunct sports enthusiasts: Andy Crossley (Fun While It Lasted & Episode 2); Paul Reeths (OurSportsCentral.com, StatsCrew.com & Episode 46); and Steve Holroyd (Crossecheck, Philly Classics & Episodes 92, 109, 149, 188 & 248).

Takes of varying temperatures fly as we review some of the most curious events of the past year, debate who and what might be next to wobble into obscurity, and conjecture about future scenarios for the next generation of defunct and otherwise forgotten pro sports teams and leagues - including:

  • USFL 2.0 + XFL 3.0 = TBD 2024

  • Oakland A's to Las Vegas (maybe)

  • Major League Cricket

  • Savannah Bananas

  • MiLB ownership consolidation

  • Premier Lacrosse League: from tour to teams

  • Professional Box Lacrosse Association (RIP)

  • Women's pro volleyball

  • MLS vs. US Soccer

  • NBA, NHL & MLB expansion/relocation rumors

  • NWSL expansion & TV deal

  • Women's hockey 3.0: PWHL

PLUS, we speculate on the dubious reincarnation of the Arena Football League!

EPISODE 184: Birmingham's Quixotic Quest for Pro Pigskin - With Scott Adamson

Veteran sportswriter and Birmingham, AL native Scott Adamson (The Home Team: My Bromance with Off-Brand Football) joins the pod to discuss his curious decades-long relationship with the various attempts at rooting pro football in the "Magic City."

Birmingham's venerable Legion Field - known legendarily as the "Football Capital of the South" for its long-time association with the annual Alabama-Auburn "Iron Bowl" college season-ender - has also been home base for a parade of franchises in virtually every major challenger pro football league since the 1970s, including:

  • The World Football League "World Bowl" champion Birmingham Americans (1974);

  • 1975's de facto title-winning Birmingham Vulcans of the reincarnated second edition WFL;

  • The USFL's perennially competitive Birmingham Stallions (1983-85);

  • The World League of American Football's Birmingham Fire (1991-92);

  • 1995's Birmingham Barracudas of the Canadian Football League;

  • The woeful Birmingham Thunderbolts of 2001's original XFL; AND

  • The playoff-qualifying Birmingham Iron of the 2019's short-lived Alliance of American Football

Adamson helps us dig into Birmingham's checkered history with the pro game, the pathology of its fandom over that time, why the city is reliably found on new/startup league short lists, and whether the XFL's return in 2022 might portend yet another chance - this time with a brand new Protective Stadium as a lure.

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EPISODE 163: Once Again, The XFL is Done (Or Is It?) – With ESPN’s Kevin Seifert

ESPN.com NFL Nation reporter Kevin Seifert stops by to help us perform a preliminary autopsy on the surprisingly sudden death of the XFL – WWE founder Vince McMahon’s second attempt at creating a viable alternative professional football league to that of the mighty NFL.

A confident, but visibly mellower McMahon announced the league’s unlikely rebirth at a video press conference on January 28, 2018 (two months before a similar launch by the rival Alliance of American Football) – with resolute commitments to professionalism, innovation and fan-friendliness noticeably absent in the XFL’s farcical first incarnation 17 years earlier.

Even after the abrupt collapse of the AAF midway through its first season last April, hopes were still high for “XFL 2.0” as its season kicked off in Washington, DC on February 8, 2020 in front of a near-sellout crowd of hometown Defenders fans at the previously “soccer-specific” Audi Field.

Like the Alliance, the quality of football was high, initial TV ratings were strong, and enthusiastic crowds approached 30,000 in markets like St. Louis and Seattle.  But it would not last. 

On March 8, after five weeks of play, the XFL announced its inaugural season would be suspended because of growing COVID-19 pandemic concerns and social distancing mandates.  On April 10, the league fully halted day-to-day operations and laid off all its employees – except for Commissioner Oliver Luck, who was terminated the day before.  The league (technically, McMahon’s sole-purpose LLC, Alpha Entertainment) then filed for bankruptcy three days later and put itself up for sale.

We chat with Seifert on the lead-up to the league’s launch, the current state of affairs, and what might further transpire in the months ahead.

EPISODE 144: Year-End Holiday Spectacular – With Paul Reeths & Andy Crossley

We put the wraps on an event-filled 2019 with our first-annual holiday roundtable spectacular featuring the return of fellow defunct sports enthusiasts Paul Reeths (OurSportsCentral.com, StatsCrew.com & Episode 46) and Andy Crossley (Fun While It Lasted & Episode 2) – for a spirited discussion about the past, present and potential future of “forgotten” pro sports teams and leagues.

It’s a no-holds-barred look back on some of the year’s most notable events and discoveries, including:

  • The short rise and quick demise of the Alliance of American Football;

  • Major League Soccer’s (unsustainable?) expansion to thirty teams;

  • The folding of the Arena Football League – again;

  • Major League Baseball’s minor league contraction plan; AND

  • Raiders NFL football moves on from Oakland for good.

As well as some predictions on what might transpire in 2020, as:

  • The second coming of Vince McMahon’s XFL kicks off in February;

  • Baseball celebrates the Negro Leagues’ 100th anniversary;

  • Las Vegas takes its biggest sports gamble yet with the Raiders;

  • The MLS Players’ Association flexes its pre-season bargaining muscles;

  • The Chargers and Clippers grapple with second-fiddle status in LA; AND

  • Mark Cuban’s Professional Futsal League . . . well, your guess is as good as ours!

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EPISODE #98: The Original XFL – With Brett Forrest

As another NFL season closes, we shift gears toward the forthcoming Alliance of American Football – the first of two new leagues attempting to again extend the pro game into viable Spring season play – where the USFL, World League of American Football and NFL Europe have famously tried before. 

The other – both in 2001 and in a reincarnated form coming next year – was and is the XFL, which we finally sink our teeth into for the first time this week with Wall Street Journal national security reporter Brett Forrest (Long Bomb: How the XFL Became TV's Biggest Fiasco).

We drop this episode on the 18th anniversary of when the audacious joint venture between the Vince McMahon-helmed World Wresting Federation (now WWE) and the Dick Ebersol-captained NBC Sports opened play at a raucous Sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas to see the hometown Outlaws battle the already-villainous New York/New Jersey Hitmen in front of a national primetime television audience.

Nearly two decades later, most who witnessed it (not to mention the tumultuous season that followed) still don’t know what to make of it.

Forrest digs into: the process of tackling his then-first-ever book assignment with Long Bomb (including the pre-season magazine article from which it came); some of the curious characters (the seemingly-legitimizing presence of Dick Butkus, the unwitting marketing genius of Rod “He Hate Me” Smart, the hungry group of eager players simply wanting one last shot at playing pro football) he encountered along the way; and the less-than-enthusiastic response of McMahon to the idea of a book about the league in the first place.

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